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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>hier mal meine Lösung, die ich in Matlab/Octave erhalte. Mein verwendeter Code ist unten angefügt. Die Parameter sind</p>
<pre class="matlab" style="font-family:monospace;">a =
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           <span style="color: #33f;">63775.507166733</span>
          <span style="color: #33f;">51677.4676852791</span>
         -<span style="color: #33f;">3567.73091416195</span>
          -<span style="color: #33f;">1523.1582338226</span>
         -<span style="color: #33f;">2126.29367766202</span></pre><p>Wenn ich mir den Plot so ansehe, passt Dein Modell nur bedingt.</p>
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<p>Viele Grüße<br />
Micha</p>
<pre class="matlab" style="font-family:monospace;"><span style="color: #0000FF;">clear</span> <span style="color: #0000FF;">all</span>
<span style="color: #0000FF;">close</span> <span style="color: #0000FF;">all</span>
<span style="color: #0000FF;">format</span> long g
<span style="color: #0000FF;">clc</span>
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d = <span style="color: #080;">&#91;</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">1</span> <span style="color: #33f;">1</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">304942</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">1</span> <span style="color: #33f;">2</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">308298</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">1</span> <span style="color: #33f;">3</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">312481</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">1</span> <span style="color: #33f;">4</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">317282</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">1</span> <span style="color: #33f;">5</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">321781</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">1</span> <span style="color: #33f;">6</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">324225</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">1</span> <span style="color: #33f;">7</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">324347</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">1</span> <span style="color: #33f;">8</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">323188</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">2</span> <span style="color: #33f;">1</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">316688</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">2</span> <span style="color: #33f;">2</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">320063</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">2</span> <span style="color: #33f;">3</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">324747</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">2</span> <span style="color: #33f;">4</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">330096</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">2</span> <span style="color: #33f;">5</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">336042</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">2</span> <span style="color: #33f;">6</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">339211</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">2</span> <span style="color: #33f;">7</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">339371</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">2</span> <span style="color: #33f;">8</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">338562</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">3</span> <span style="color: #33f;">1</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">330269</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">3</span> <span style="color: #33f;">2</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">332783</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">3</span> <span style="color: #33f;">3</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">336982</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">3</span> <span style="color: #33f;">4</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">340340</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">3</span> <span style="color: #33f;">5</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">344769</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">3</span> <span style="color: #33f;">6</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">350510</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">3</span> <span style="color: #33f;">7</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">352527</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">3</span> <span style="color: #33f;">8</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">353029</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">4</span> <span style="color: #33f;">1</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">345745</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">4</span> <span style="color: #33f;">2</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">346596</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">4</span> <span style="color: #33f;">3</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">350866</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">4</span> <span style="color: #33f;">4</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">353812</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">4</span> <span style="color: #33f;">5</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">357153</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">4</span> <span style="color: #33f;">6</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">362872</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">4</span> <span style="color: #33f;">7</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">366183</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">4</span> <span style="color: #33f;">8</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">367879</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">5</span> <span style="color: #33f;">1</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">346414</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">5</span> <span style="color: #33f;">2</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">354549</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">5</span> <span style="color: #33f;">3</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">359087</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">5</span> <span style="color: #33f;">4</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">362396</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">5</span> <span style="color: #33f;">5</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">366733</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">5</span> <span style="color: #33f;">6</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">371214</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">5</span> <span style="color: #33f;">7</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">375946</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">5</span> <span style="color: #33f;">8</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">379165</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">5</span> <span style="color: #33f;">9</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">381900</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">5</span> <span style="color: #33f;">10</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">384032</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">6</span> <span style="color: #33f;">1</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">357128</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">6</span> <span style="color: #33f;">2</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">366211</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">6</span> <span style="color: #33f;">3</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">372577</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">6</span> <span style="color: #33f;">4</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">377025</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">6</span> <span style="color: #33f;">5</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">382663</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">6</span> <span style="color: #33f;">6</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">387395</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">6</span> <span style="color: #33f;">7</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">392556</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">6</span> <span style="color: #33f;">8</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">395889</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">6</span> <span style="color: #33f;">9</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">398911</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">6</span> <span style="color: #33f;">10</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">401496</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">7</span> <span style="color: #33f;">1</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">369030</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">7</span> <span style="color: #33f;">2</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">377191</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">7</span> <span style="color: #33f;">3</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">384684</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">7</span> <span style="color: #33f;">4</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">391385</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">7</span> <span style="color: #33f;">5</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">397565</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">7</span> <span style="color: #33f;">6</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">402845</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">7</span> <span style="color: #33f;">7</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">407988</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">7</span> <span style="color: #33f;">8</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">412800</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">7</span> <span style="color: #33f;">9</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">416911</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">7</span> <span style="color: #33f;">10</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">420125</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">8</span> <span style="color: #33f;">1</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">381403</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">8</span> <span style="color: #33f;">2</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">390747</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">8</span> <span style="color: #33f;">3</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">399302</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">8</span> <span style="color: #33f;">4</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">407526</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">8</span> <span style="color: #33f;">5</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">414101</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">8</span> <span style="color: #33f;">6</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">418549</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">8</span> <span style="color: #33f;">7</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">424218</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">8</span> <span style="color: #33f;">8</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">430747</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">8</span> <span style="color: #33f;">9</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">435959</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">8</span> <span style="color: #33f;">10</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">439909</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">9</span> <span style="color: #33f;">1</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">393694</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">9</span> <span style="color: #33f;">2</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">405124</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">9</span> <span style="color: #33f;">3</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">416535</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">9</span> <span style="color: #33f;">4</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">425279</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">9</span> <span style="color: #33f;">5</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">432164</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">9</span> <span style="color: #33f;">6</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">437040</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">9</span> <span style="color: #33f;">7</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">443414</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">9</span> <span style="color: #33f;">8</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">450798</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">9</span> <span style="color: #33f;">9</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">456610</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">9</span> <span style="color: #33f;">10</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">461182</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">10</span> <span style="color: #33f;">1</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">409254</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">10</span> <span style="color: #33f;">2</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">422472</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">10</span> <span style="color: #33f;">3</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">437033</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">10</span> <span style="color: #33f;">4</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">445715</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">10</span> <span style="color: #33f;">5</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">452849</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">10</span> <span style="color: #33f;">6</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">460184</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">10</span> <span style="color: #33f;">7</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">467327</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">10</span> <span style="color: #33f;">8</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">473766</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">10</span> <span style="color: #33f;">9</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">479467</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">10</span> <span style="color: #33f;">10</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">484383</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">11</span> <span style="color: #33f;">1</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">429360</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">11</span> <span style="color: #33f;">2</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">443021</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">11</span> <span style="color: #33f;">3</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">456661</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">11</span> <span style="color: #33f;">4</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">466642</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">11</span> <span style="color: #33f;">5</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">475168</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">11</span> <span style="color: #33f;">6</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">483763</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">11</span> <span style="color: #33f;">7</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">491689</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">11</span> <span style="color: #33f;">8</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">498437</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">11</span> <span style="color: #33f;">9</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">504377</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">11</span> <span style="color: #33f;">10</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">509641</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">12</span> <span style="color: #33f;">1</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">451589</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">12</span> <span style="color: #33f;">2</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">465066</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">12</span> <span style="color: #33f;">3</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">477927</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">12</span> <span style="color: #33f;">4</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">489084</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">12</span> <span style="color: #33f;">5</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">499054</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">12</span> <span style="color: #33f;">6</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">508455</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">12</span> <span style="color: #33f;">7</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">517051</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">12</span> <span style="color: #33f;">8</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">524570</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">12</span> <span style="color: #33f;">9</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">531150</span>
<span style="color: #33f;">12</span> <span style="color: #33f;">10</span>  <span style="color: #33f;">536935</span>
<span style="color: #080;">&#93;</span>;
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y = d<span style="color: #080;">&#40;</span>:,<span style="color: #33f;">1</span><span style="color: #080;">&#41;</span>;
x = d<span style="color: #080;">&#40;</span>:,<span style="color: #33f;">2</span><span style="color: #080;">&#41;</span>;
z = d<span style="color: #080;">&#40;</span>:,<span style="color: #33f;">3</span><span style="color: #080;">&#41;</span>;
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<span style="color: #0000FF;">J</span> = <span style="color: #080;">&#91;</span>x, y, x.^<span style="color: #33f;">2</span>, y.^<span style="color: #33f;">2</span>, x.*y<span style="color: #080;">&#93;</span>;
a = <span style="color: #0000FF;">J</span>\z;
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u = a<span style="color: #080;">&#40;</span><span style="color: #33f;">1</span><span style="color: #080;">&#41;</span>.*x+a<span style="color: #080;">&#40;</span><span style="color: #33f;">2</span><span style="color: #080;">&#41;</span>.*y+a<span style="color: #080;">&#40;</span><span style="color: #33f;">3</span><span style="color: #080;">&#41;</span>.*x.^<span style="color: #33f;">2</span>+a<span style="color: #080;">&#40;</span><span style="color: #33f;">4</span><span style="color: #080;">&#41;</span>.*y.^<span style="color: #33f;">2</span>+a<span style="color: #080;">&#40;</span><span style="color: #33f;">5</span><span style="color: #080;">&#41;</span>.*x.*y;
&nbsp;
<span style="color: #0000FF;">plot3</span><span style="color: #080;">&#40;</span>x,y,z, <span style="color:#A020F0;">'.'</span>,<span style="color: #080;">...</span>
      <span style="">x</span>,y,u,<span style="color:#A020F0;">'o'</span><span style="color: #080;">&#41;</span>
<span style="color: #0000FF;">legend</span><span style="color: #080;">&#40;</span><span style="color: #080;">&#123;</span><span style="color:#A020F0;">'Daten'</span>; <span style="color:#A020F0;">'Ausgleichung'</span><span style="color: #080;">&#125;</span><span style="color: #080;">&#41;</span>
<span style="color: #0000FF;">grid</span> on
<span style="color: #0000FF;">axis</span> square
<span style="color: #0000FF;">xlabel</span><span style="color: #080;">&#40;</span><span style="color:#A020F0;">'X'</span><span style="color: #080;">&#41;</span>;
<span style="color: #0000FF;">ylabel</span><span style="color: #080;">&#40;</span><span style="color:#A020F0;">'Y'</span><span style="color: #080;">&#41;</span>;
<span style="color: #0000FF;">zlabel</span><span style="color: #080;">&#40;</span><span style="color:#A020F0;">'Z'</span><span style="color: #080;">&#41;</span>;
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<category>Geodäsie/Vermessung</category><dc:creator>MichaeL</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hallo Zusammen,</p>
<p>zunächst besten Dank für die Unterstützung.<br />
Ich habe mich jetzt mal rangesetzt und die Designmatrix aufgestellt und dann die mir bekannten Ausgleichungsschritte ausgeführt. Leider erhalte ich aber Koeffizienten, mit denen die Residuen zwischen der beobachteten und der ausgeglichene Fläche viel zu groß sind.<br />
Anbei habe ich mal die Excel mit der Berechnung hochgeladen. <br />
<a href="http://filehorst.de/d/birHDsAb">http://filehorst.de/d/birHDsAb</a><br />
Hier kann man auch ein Plot der beobachteten Fläche sehen. Wenn man dann die Funktion mit den berechneten Koefizienten mal bei Wolfram Alpha eingibt, sieht man das die Fläche stark von der beobachteten Fläche abweicht.<br />
<a href="http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=f(x,y)+%3D+69907*x%2B53940*y%2B-7241*x%5E2%2B-2603*y%5E2%2B1447*xy">http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=f(x,y)+%3D+69907*x%2B53940*y%2B-7241*x%5E2%2B-2603*y%5E2%2B1447*xy</a></p>
<p>Wäre nett wenn ihr euch mal die Berechnung anschaut und mir sagen könnt was ich falsch gemacht habe.</p>
<p>VG</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2017 08:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Geodäsie/Vermessung</category><dc:creator>komplexor</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eddi,</p>
<p>wie gesagt, ich will Dich gar nicht reglementieren und finde Deine Hilfestellungen hier sehr löblich. Es wäre nur schön, dass wenn eine Lösung am Ende abgeleitet wird für ein Problem, diese auch <em>irgendwie</em> wieder für alle sichtbar wird. </p>
<p>Ich kann mir gut vorstellen, dass es einige Mitlese bei den Threads gibt. Diese würde man nicht vor den Kopf stoßen.</p>
<blockquote><p>Ich wollte nur verhindern, dass sich andere Teilnehmer langweilen, wenn es zu speziell wird.</p>
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Ich denke, hier sind alle in der Lage bestimmte Postings/Threads zu ignorieren. <img src="http://forum.diegeodaeten.de/images/smilies/wink.gif" alt=";-)" title="zwinker" /></p>
<blockquote><p>Für die Zukunft gebongt <img src="http://forum.diegeodaeten.de/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt=":-)" title="grins" /> </p>
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Vielen Dank und schönen Feiertag<br />
Micha</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2017 11:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, da habe ich wohl was falsch verstanden.........<img src="http://forum.diegeodaeten.de/images/smilies/frown.gif" alt=":-(" title="traurig" /> <br />
Ich wollte nur verhindern, dass sich andere Teilnehmer langweilen, wenn es zu speziell wird.<br />
Für die Zukunft gebongt <img src="http://forum.diegeodaeten.de/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt=":-)" title="grins" /> </p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eddi,</p>
<p>ich weiß Dein Engagement durchaus zu schätzen aber ich fände es schöner und auch nachhaltiger, wenn wir als Mitleser bei der Lösung involviert sind und nicht alles im Hintergrund per Mail abläuft. Für Suchende mit einer ähnlichen Problemstellung ergibt sich ein Benefit, wenn sie die Lösung auch direkt vorfinden.</p>
<p>Viele Grüße<br />
Micha</p>
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<category>Geodäsie/Vermessung</category><dc:creator>MichaeL</dc:creator>
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